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>> cenk: all right, we didn't get to the racist story will rogers els out of fox news channel. itturns out it was about his janitor. "viewpoint" is next. bye bye! [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> john: thank you turks. tonight on "viewpoint" we were all prepared to devote an entire full hour of programming to michael douglas' revelation about what caused his throat cancer. but we can't because he's... he's... eating his words. jeremy skahill joins us to talk about his new book and film "dirty wars" and the best political panel in tv history to take on chris christie's fiscally conservative decision to have special election that will cost the taxpayers $4 million which is even more than his lipitor pill bill.
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and if national security adviser susan rice fails to stop terror attack that kills 3,000 americans will the g.o.p. finally think she's qualified to be secretary of state? today it the birthday of bill moyers dr. jill biden and chuck klosterman and 4 years ago in teenteen man square, an unknown unarmed protester nor democracy stood before a row of tanks and briefly made them stop america responded by renewing china's most favored nation trading status, and today they're the best capitalists in the history
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commune this is "viewpoint"." >> cenk: attorney general eric holder is assuring top aides that he's doing fine and he continues to be under fire from the lawmakers and media. how difficult it is to shed light on exactly what's going on with the war on terror in a climate where the obama administration, let's be fair, has a rather aggressive posture against journalist who is have prying eyes, and no one knows this more better than jeremy skahill. he's the national security correspondent for the nation. he has traveled to see how the secret war on terror is being fought. jeremy i'm so pleased to have you on the show. congratulations on the book and the film. this window on this very modern
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war. i want to ask you about jay sock, the joint security command. he has unprecedented power on the battlefield. how were you able to operate within this huge military industrial complex right where the battle is taking place? >> well, it's really interesting. i had been a war reporter, i have been a war reporter, conflict reporter my entire adult life. i cut my teeth during the clinton administration cloud covering yugoslavia and iraq, but going to the other side of the war talking to civilians talking about bomb campaigns and ground wars. my gateway into this story was through my work on blackwater, the mercenary company. i actually came across blackwater for the first time not in iraq or afghanistan but in new orleans in the aftermath
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of katrina. i saw these big mercenaries running around and i was rolling around with them and i was obsessed with this world where you have this shadowy kingpin who is a personal friend of dick cheney and these guys are profiting from the personal gulf to the u.s. gulf. they created baghdad on the bayou. they made 70 plus million dollars just not to mention iraq and afghanistan. i met guys who were former navy seals who were working with blackwater and they would tell me stories about these operations they were running. when i started investing this i had never heard of jay sock. we were investigating night raids and we came across this raid where a pregnant woman had been killed in a botch raid
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where the u.s. soldiers thought they were taking down a taliban stronghold but were given bad info. and they would not admit--afghans will feed bad intelligence to try to settle scores against a guy who stole a goat ten years ago. and as we started investigating it, we realized that the guys who did this raid were none other than these elite command does part of jaysock and they were commanded by the guy who led the mission that killed osama bin laden. we're tracking this, they were the one who is killed pregnant women and then boom, osama bin laden is skilled and they're
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national heroes. so sort of like our world turned upside down. it's like walking through the looking glass. i learned a tremendous amount but it effected me as a person and a reporter to do this story. >> john: tell me about dirty war. what surprised you most the way america is conducting war on the war on terror. >> we have got this president who is a constitutional lawyer by trade. he won the nobel peace prize. a lot of people viewed him as a transformational figure who did say i want to roll back all of this mess that bush and cheney created with all this war torture. what surprised me the way obama doubled down on the use of jay sock and understand the extent that he has let these guys run
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wild beyond cheney allowed them operating. this is going to be one of his legacies to the counter terror approach. >> john: bill clinton had the same thing. he had to go bomb saddam hussein to show how tough he is. >> look at obama. he has the republicans saying he's not an u.s. citizen. he's a kenyan mau mau. 's like a love child sent to destroy america from within, and he's half breed muslim. >> who kills a lot of other muslims. >> right, he hasn't killed any of them. he is coddling him the attacks are big. on the one hand you have the dingbatry from the right, and then you have the john mccain who was a war hero. mccain is a hawkish guy who
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never met an invasion that he wasn't in love with or a rebel group he wanted to arm. he's the big syria guy now and wants to go over and run around with the rebels and if it was up to him we would have 200 troops still in iraq to-to-this day and a major factor in destabilizing syria. obama comes in to office almost no time in military except his time in the senate floor. and he gets into office, and he's briefed by admiral mc mcgraveen and the david petraeus who was cheney's general and ultra powerful guy. they say there are hundreds ready to take down america's aircraft and poison our water supplies, if you don't allow us to strike in yemen where there
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had only been one bombing since 9/11 in 1992, then we'll get hit. i think what obama did is he made jay sock is the policies. we're not going to do mass troop deployment and he wanted to make himself tougher. he said we'll take the fight to the terrorist and start doing preemptive strikes against them and you see him radically expand the drone strikes empower jay sock and give authorization to hit countries outside of the battlefield, and that's part of how i think we got to where we are right now. >> john: they say, jeremy, afghanistan is the graveyard. on the subject of targeted killings you describe an administration obama's with an endless kill list. terror meetings every tuesday in
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the white house and military prisons in places like somalia which begs the question we were told that torture was no more, but are we out of the business of secret prisons? >> it was his third day in office in his first term he issued the executive orders to close guantanamo and said we're not going to torture any more. what i found in my investigation, and we showed this in the film, in somalia the u.s. is using a prison buried in the basement where we're paying the agent. they're interrogating prisoners. some of whom have been rendered from other countries to somalia on orders of the united states. how different is it from obama from bush. under obama you call the kenya government and tell them to snatch someone and then take
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them to the somalia prison to bring them in to somalia and then u.s. goes in and interrogate. >> no one is holding a clip board to them. >> i believe the president is sincere when he says he wants to ban torture. what the sow mallees do to these prisoners is much like under clinton. when the c.i.a. guys are in the room it's all answering questions and using none coercive methods. then you leave the room and the screams start. what are they doing? the leahy amendment prevents the united states to funding torture. my sense is there is torture still being done with a wink and a nod from the c.i.a. or the u.s. military, and whether or not you have personnel involved in it is a question that should be pursued.
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>> john: and whether or not it could be called torture is shaky as well. how many countries are we operating in. most americans think we're out of iraq, according to your film it's 75-- >> to 100. the u.s. has people on the ground in mali, in africa where they're understanding al-qaeda. there was a strike in mexico that the u.s. operation command provided support for deeply involved in in the war on drugs throughout latin america. there was an airstrike in the philippines several months ago that very well may have been an u.s. strike. we have guys on the ground that are embedded with philippine units fighting against an islamic resistence group. you could have operations going on in 75 to 100 100 countries. most of them are operators attached to local military in those countries but technically there as advisers. >> john: what about the kill
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list. how do you get on that? >> are you concerned? >> john: not this guy. but in terms of we like to talk about the nobel peace prize and the liberal president obama. we're talking about assassinations. >> yeah, i'm glad to hear you say that. i think we live in an owe we other orwellian moment. they're saying not specifically targeted. what does that mean? was it a signature strike where we're killing military-age males. >> john: they were collateral damage, innocent dead people. >> i'll have to do the math on that after the show. but how you get on the kill list, i don't know. if you're not told of the crime how do you surrender? we're told about this american-born cleric who was killed in yemen. that may have been involved in all sorts of nefarious stuff.
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the president is telling us that. they never indicted him and the president would have been on firmer ground in that killing although i'm with a minority of the killing of awalaki. if we're we have citizens who are sentenced to death then we need to rewrite the constitution. our values are how we treat people like that. i assume you're a law-biding citizen. >> john: mostly. >> it's not how we treat you but how we treat people who are up to no goo. >> john: or their 16-year-old son has been well documented. >> and he had nothing to do with anything. >> john: we're almost out of time. at the end of your film you talked about how you felt a need to apologize. >> yes i have gotten flack for
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that. where is the rule that reporters aren't humans. i've been doing this for my entire adult life going in these conflict zones. when you're the only american going in with people who have lost a loved one in a botched night raid. what is your responsibility? we recognized in the film that i'm sorry for what we did. in some places i'm the only american they're going to meet. i'm sorry we did that, because ultimately was done by our name and with our tax dollars. >> john: i thank you for that and your continueing journalism. "bittery wars." it's in select theaters this weekend and on demand starting later this month. >> thanks a lot. >> john: up next more on the unfolding tragedy of syria with the former u.s. ambassador.
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>> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." president obama has repeatedly said that syrian president about a shark al an assad must go. and the president said that a assad has crossed a red line if they had used chemical weapons against its own people. both of these statements have been put in question again by the latest newspapers from syria syria. rebel groups today confirmed that assad's forces had won control of a strategic town of kosar. and thousands of hezbollah fighters from lebanon allied with assad apparently made the difference. in a vicious three-week siege where casualties certainly numbered its hundreds and possibly in the thousand. on tuesday french foreign minister lawrence fabious told an interviewer there was no doubt that assad regime and it's
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accomplices had used sain nerve gas multiple times. we're pleased to be joined by theodore kattouf former u.s. ambassador to syria and united arab emirates and currently president of amidest, a non-profit dedicated to education training and development in the middle east. welcome. >> thank you. >> john: what was he like to deal with, and did you ever expect this man to turn into one guilty of mass slaughter to keep his power unthreatened. >> he was not a difficult fellow to deal with compared to his father. his father had a certain aura, a certain presence. bashar never expected to become president. even after his elder brother who
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was expected, died in a car crash, even though he was groomed for several years, it just didn't seem like it was in him. he was easy to talk to. he was personable. he allowed you to speak and ask questions. he might not give you much of an answer but there was at least some give and take which wasn't always the case with his father. and in those early years i never imagined that he would be capable of this level of brutality. >> john: i remember when there were stories about the charming beautiful wife and how different he was from his father, i think a lot of people share your confusion. how important, sir is this week the fall of kusar. >> well, i think it's very very important. what your viewers need to understand is that the 12% of the population or so that come
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from is the radical come from the mountains of syria. not many had moved to the big cities and they need desperately to keep the roads open from their ancestral home homelands and kartos and bashir could have tut the road to the coast. >> john: it's surprise to go many onlookers of the state, the civil war in syria seemed to have settled in a stalemate with the rebels having the upper hand. it seems that has changed now. is assad really winning? >> you're quite correct. the momentum has clearly changed. not only of course hezbollah who are really well-trained
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gorilla fighters from lebanon came in to help their co-religionists because this civil war has heavy heavy sectarian overtones. >> john: indeed. >> and they helped to tip the battle but the syrian army itself managed to open the road between damascus and jordan which the rebels were capable of cutting off earlier. now there are reports that his hezbollah and syrian forces joining in the north of the country which the opposition has largely controlled. so it looks like the opposition is back on its heels. >> john: we should remind our viewers hezbollah the lebanese shiite muslim group. and they have a leader who has pledged that hezbollah will go all the out to keep mr. assad in power. i have to ask you what is
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hezbollah's commitment mean to the region and what role is iran their chief supporter influencing this conflict. >> this is polarizing the region. if you look at lebanon syria iraq, you look at bahrain you have this divide, if you will, in all of those countries. saddam hussein was from the minority sunni sect in iraq that ruled before the invasion and installed largely a shiite group of politicians in baghdad. and so on one hand you have iran and most of the shiite population backing assad. and on the other hand you have conservative gulf states like saudi arabia which is overwhelmingly sunni backing turkey and the rebels.
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so it's a very, very ugly sectarian war. >> john: and at this point it looks like it could turn to a very ugly proxy war. america, of course, is openly sympathetic to the rebels even though a lot of us don't know who those are yet. but russia and china have worked to block any action against the regime in the security council. we talked about putin and what his role is, but what is their interest, russia and china keeping assad in power. >> we should focus on russia. i don't think china is as big a problem, in fact, i know it's not. it seems to me from the people we talked to in russia, putin is a hard line nationalist. we all know that he came out of the kgb and he felt that russia had been humiliated under yeltsin that our--you know, our taking kosovo away from serbia, our backing for the bosnia
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muslims are went against russian interests. he wants to demonstrate to the u.s. and western powers that russia is still a force to be reckoned with, it's interests cannot be ignored, and meanwhile it has it's only naval base at thesyria, and russia doesn't have a warm water port of its own. >> john: and now i guess russia is aligned with hezbollah? >> well, russia, you know, essentially russia is against it appears sunni islamists. they're more comfortable i think probably because in their own muslim provinces, it's an overwhelmingly sunni population as i understood it. what they call the near abroad, the country that used to be part of the soviet union that are
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muslim they're sunni islamists movements as well. they think that the u.s. and saudi arabia have been working hand in glove to foment problems for them among the islamists. >> john: let me close this because i know it's not complicated enough. john kerry said that america wanted to accelerate the fall of the assad regime and has pushed for an international peace conference which we learned today is not going to happen as we hoped in june because it's syrian sides are not ready to talk. do you think a negotiated settlement at this point is even oh possible? >> no, i don't. the reason i don't is because for both sides in this syrian civil war, it's an extension existential battle. they believe it they showed weakness they would be slaughtered by the other side, including family members and the like. neither side isn't going to give
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any quarter. what you really need, i'm sorry to say is a long stalemate between the opposition and the syrian regime where both sides become exhausted and find out they have to deal with one another and come to some kind of power-sharing agreement. >> john: all we know for sure it's going to be a long, ugly bloody summer. ambassador to syria, thank you for your time here tonight. >> my pleasure. >> john: up next, a christian church in minnesota that got vandalized for being too christian. you don't want to miss this. stick around. washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending
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>> john: today on wtf minnesota we look at the pilgrims united church of christ in maple grove minnesota, which has a long history supporting equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples so naturally it was vandalized with homophobic gofy canhomophobicgohomophobicgo graffiti and eggs thrown at its church walls enure in the bible there is not one instance of a wedding in sodom and gomorrah, and even though there is not a
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>> john: hey republicans, go benghazi yourself. that was the mention president obama delivered to the conspiracy-craven republicans today when he announced the newest member of his senior staff. >> obama: i am extraordinaryily
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proud to announce my new national security adviser susan rice. put simply, susan exemplifies the finest tradition of american diplomacy and leadership. >> john: with that the conservative benghazi goingy woman was given the position not requiring confirmation. meaning the senate will have no say in the matter. how is that for a talking point. we're joined by the greatest panel basing smikle and tom doherty, and rick unger. thank you for coming in this evening. tommy, i'm going to start with you. is this the most overtly confrontationnal move that the president has made towards the g.o.p.? >> no, i don't think so.
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he's rewarding loyalty. he feels that ambassador rice has been loyal to him and as president of the united states he gets to appoint the people he feels closest to. and obviously it's going to tick off republicans, but they'll have to get over it. >> john: basil, is tommy right? is it just to needle the republicans or to reward loyalty. >> i'm going to tell you it's to roading loyalty, but he's needling republicans. the first lady at the fundraiser gets a heckler and she goes toe-to-toe with the heckler and the president says, look, i didn't think he was a great retail politician, to be honest with you but i like when he understands the role of the office and the power of the office, i like when he use it is. >> john: is this the obama you've been waiting for? >> i don't think it's that big of a deal. the big surprise here is that the republicans aren't all that
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upset. if you were following twitter today you saw the mccains of the world they all gave her a three-one line, well, we'll work with her. darrell issa will go on tv and make a big fuss, but who cares. there is a reason for this. all the people in foreign policies orbit susan rice her foreign policy was born out of rwanda and how the u.s. never did anything to help them she's more inclined to be an interventionallist than anybody in his orbit and republicans are okay. >> you mentioned rwanda, and i think you're correct. my fear is that this becomes obama's rwanda where clinton comes back and says that's one of his biggest regrets of the administration. >> john: i want to bring it back
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to the benghazi issue, even then was calling this obama's revenge which was a bit silly even by their standard. well does it help to keep the benghazi standard alive for the right or does it show the world that they have no fears on benghazi and they're completely above it. >> i think benghazi becomes a story every time you talk about rice. but the problem for the republicans is she now can claim executive privilege and doesn't have to testify. from obama's standpoint there is a smart political move here. >> john: but has the narrative shifted? we have to blame barack obama for this to blame susan rice to blame hillary clinton to susan rice now it seems it's going to be all about blaming hillary clinton for it, that's what they'll get the mileage out of it. >> the narrative has not caught fire. benghazi, unless there is some huge breaking piece of information, it's over. it's over. the public has never bought benghazi. >> most of the public really doesn't understand it.
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it's something that is not about america per se they don't really grasp it. >> i want to give dr. credit to rick. i believe in my heart that benghazi is deeper and sinister than we talked about. that's one of the reasons, i think--if you look at it from a standpoint where we got from point a to point b to point c there is no reason we should have wound up here unless there was something covert going on. >> john: that's where you nail it. >> rick unger is the one who gave me that. >> john: that's why we'll never know the whole truth of what's going on. when petraeus' own girlfriend said there was a jail in the bottom of that prison, we'll never move on. let's move on from benghazi, if we are permitted to do that. what is the appointment of susan rice and samantha power signify.
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>> i really do think and i hope this is a step in the right direction of getting involved with syria. i think as--i don't know if that's going to get any worse but assuming that it does, that maybe be where we end with the president's legacy coming out of office. i hope that's not the case. but i do believe that it shines some light and gives some hope to the thought that america will get involved. >> john: do you see intervention beyond imposing a no-fly zone? you don't see bombers or troops on the ground? >> i don't. this is not iraq. this is not the kind of place you can make that statement but youyou can't let it fester like you did with a good chunk of the arab spring. >> john: does this depend on how mr. putin feels about things? >> i think powers is going to be the monster ambassador. she's the one who called hillary clinton the monster. takes the lead from the campaign back in '08. she wants to be more aggressive. i think that's one of the reasons why john mccain came out and said we need to confirm her rather quickly.
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i think we're going to see a more aggressive policy towards syria. i think today was a policy day. >> john: i think you're right. what do you think of ambassador rice? >> i think basil's analysis is pretty darn good. the problem is the american public does not want anything to do with syria. we're just burnt out on this stuff. so it may be the right thing to do, in fact, i don't see it happening. >> john: stick around because my all-star political paternal, the best in the history of tv will stay here to talk about chris christie. don't go away.
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this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care
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about them, right? monday to thursday at 6 eastern >> john: well back to "viewpoint." on social media i asked all y'all if you thought chris christie's $24 million special election is a good idea? on facebook, one viewer said, it will be good when he transforms his policies into progressive policies denounces the g.o.p. and becomes a democrat. that's never going to happen. he will be another democrat who thinks divorce women who have an abortion should go to jail. if you have a comment for the show tweet us at "viewpoint" or john fugelsang or use hashtag "viewpoint" or point it on our facebook. for more, i'm going to our all-
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all-star political panel democratic strategist basil smikle, republican strategist and partner at mercury bipartisan national public affairs firm tomorrow boaterty and contributor to and democratic statist rick unger. what do you make of christie's political could youlous here? was he really trying to get the new jerseyens representation as quickly as possible or was he trying to avoid cory booker being on the same ballot as himself. >> he gave me an explanation you need to ask him first. >> john: so many republicans and democrats say they have crazy theories about this. help me out. >> first of all the $24 million number is wrong. it's $12 million. >> john: per party. >> you're going going to have a primary anywhere. he everybody is going into this
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with a booker phenomenon. i don't think booker is the guy to worry about. i think the democrat is going to be palone. >> john: really. >> and then throw in oliver, african-american woman from ethics who said originally let's get a jump on this cory booker bandwagon. i think this primary could come out a much different ways. politics comes into everything that we do. i think this is going to be an opportunity that if the governor who had the opportunity to take the original "viewpoint" "viewpoint" that if we hold off there may be lawsuits. >> cenk: let's go to your first point, and basil jump on to this. it comes to fundraiser. booker thought he had a year and a half and now he has a summer. don't you think he could call some friends and raise more money than palone. >> he has $2 million, and palone has 3 million. he has a lot of ground to cover.
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i do believe that chris christie is brilliant in this move. i think he's very smart. he's spending $24 million of taxpayer's money to fight cory booker. >> $12 million. >> $12 million per party. $24 million taxpayer money total to avoid having cory booker on the ballot. he has huge name recognition. he is a great fundraiser, and he has to be careful because palone is a strong candidate. >> does anybody believe just because cory booker may be on the ballot in november was going to effect chris christie's outcome in that election? >> but if you're chris christie, you don't want to take that chance j. >> cenk: and it affects the turnout for the entire state. >> yes, it does. >> john: understand the rules, he has 70-76 days from the time he makes the announcement to the special election.
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he conceivably could have waited 18 days, and then made the announcement and saved the state millions of dollars. but the conservatives are coming down on him. and will they be able to use it against the conservative-- >> they will. and if chris christie continues on the path he is on, he will be the republican nominee for president. >> this is my concern-- >> let me tell how the big loser is, the democrat running against chris christie. i'll tell i couldn't. the way it stood the focus in new jersey was going to be on the gubernatorial race. who was going to be talking about barbara now. it's all going to be about cory or the democrats. >> palone. >> nobody is going to be talking about the gubernatorial any more. >> john: but if they was on the same ballot you would have more democrats showing up. >> not enough. enough to help
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other democrats on the ballot. >> and they would have the advantage, it definitely would have helped to have him on the ballot. but the question to the point about the primary one of the questions i have, national republican party going to embrace him finally? after this? >> who? >> chris christie. >> john: tommy, you nailed it. if he pisses the g.o.p. establishment enough is that all he needs to make the tea party like him more? >> no, i think--the tea party liking anybody as we saw last week is virtually impossible. i think at times they don't like themselves and it's a shame because i agree with them on different things. but booker is not going to affect the outcome of the gubernatorial race. >> john: no, nobody is saying that. >> but does it make a difference down ballot come election day? and it's brilliant, you know why? when you have republicans and democrats barking at you that means that you've done something really wrong.
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>> john: for all the screaming at him for all the money he's wasting he's guaranteeing that a lot of new jerseyens are going to say i voted for cory booker last month. i'm not going out again. should the g.o.p. get out of the way and let this guy do his thing? >> no, the vast majority of the g.o.p. across the country get up and applaud the guy. it's the far, far right who find complaint about everything. >> it's the primaries all over again. the chris christie will be the sensible candidate in a couple of years and he will lose the nomination. >> john: any republican more electable than chris christie? >> i don't think so. >> i don't either. >> john: i think we all agree. he is a much better public speaker than hillary clinton. >> that would be fun. it will be an intellectual
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battle. >> john: i'll be delving into the susan condoleezza rice thing and it's easier than the kirk kirk-picard debate. stick around. that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar.
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>>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> john: well, one last question for my panel. which rice made the bigger mistake. susan or condoleeza? >> i'm going to say condoleeza. >> i'm going to neither because ultimately they worked for the guy who made the decision for them and they carry out the mission. i blame neither of them. >> john: diplomatically brilliant. >> i got to say susan because she vested heavily in the keystone pipeline. >> a lot of liberals don't like that except for africa she never found a war she didn't like. tonight we tell the tale of two rices. susan and condoleeza. one rice is about to become the national security adviser after the republicans said she was unworthy of being secretary of state. the other rice became national
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security state after republicans loved her. so will susan rice soon to be nsa to obama perform as magnificently as condoleeza rice performed when she was bush's nsa? let's hope not. now a lot of you know that the terrorists come in a distance fourth. that's the way of the bubble. ever 9/11/01 the g.o.p. used terrorist to attack barak. then of them in cairo inflated over the stupid youtube view when susan rice discussed the attacks she relied on talking points that factored in that video as it had been a factor in dozens of other protest that very day. this talking point was approved by our c.i.a. headed by david petraeus who must never be
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blamed for approving the talking points that susan rice must be blamed for repeating. and if i try to explain it, i'm afraid that my head will explode which citizen another tragic death that the right will blame on susan rice. now as for the rice known as condoleeza we know for a fact that under her watch she would never allow four americans to be killed at an u.s. embassy attacks overseas because when she was a high ranking bush member dozen mrs. killed in embassies but they never held fundraisers which is why you never heard about them on fox. you know those cute cat photos that you never think about again, that's how condoleeza rice treated a memo in
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bin laden's determined to attack the u.s. i'm saying there was a bigger reaction to last sunday's game of thrones episode than anyone in the administration to the looming threat of bin laden talking here. nsa rice- ,that's condie helped america lie into an invasion of a country that never attacked us, and of course we all remember john mccain demanding rice resign over repeating bad intel, not that rice, the other rice. if the new nsa rice fails to stop a terror attack that killed 3,000 will the g.o.p. think she's qualified to be secretary of state. if rice deserved a promotion after thousands of americans were killed on rice's watch why isn't rice deserving after four americans was killed on rice's watch. why is what rice did acceptable if what rice is ircome
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pre-hencible. whatever susan rice's qualifications are comparing her to condoleeza rice is like comparing tony bennet's skills of jazz sing to go william bennet's kills of jazz singing. the person in charge of national security got a promotion. but this lady is the bad guy. that's "viewpoint" for tonight. i want to thank the greatest all-star political panel including basil smikle, republican strategist, the bipartisan national public affairs firm that will never speak to me again after that that, tom doherty and democratic
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statist rick unger. good evening everyone, i'm john fugelsang. dan savage is tomorrow. we'll see you then. good night mom. >> joy: tonight jesse ventura went from pro wrestler to governor and he now he is considering a presidential run. plus, one of new york's top plastic surgeons is here with tips for looking younger. my advise for looking younger? hang out in nursing homes. and if you wonder why all of this furniture is nailed down, it's because we have a real house wive of new jersey here. luckily it is caroline manzo. she is the least crazy one. that's tonight on "say anything." [♪ theme music ♪]


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